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Since there is alot of talk of them I figured i report. First of all they do not raise your rear end I personally I don't see how they could. I checked before and after if there was a chance it was minimal and my two finger of gap test didn't change. Secondly They do firm of up the rear end at first I didn't think there was a difference but upon further driving on some lumpy roads I had more rebound to deal with, since I have adjustable shocks i am clicking down my shocks one setting. Third these things did help quite a bit. I had tried to spin my wheels on slightly wet ground before them and I got spin, skip, skip and I let off. After having them installed I got spin, spin, slight skip,spin,spin, slight skip, spin and then i saw the cloud of white smoke and let off. Thus they didn't completly remove my skip but it took my skip rating on a scale of 1 to 100 from say about 50 to 10. I would say my shocks, springs, and swaybars did the other 50 points. Forth were pretty easy to install especially if you put the car on a lift and use a tall jack to hold the subframe. IE pay a shop $20 to install them. So bottom line is that they are very nice traction mod for $80 bucks and I feel much more confident on my offline the traction and make me wonder if the $1200 subframe upgrade really worth while. I recommend to everyone try this mod first then move to the next step if are not completly happy. Greg Dupree is also very pleasant person to work with and glad to have him be part of the Z community. I only thing recommend that he start accepting credit cards or paypal for those who need something right away :-)
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